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 | lakeman
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 39 Rollag Minnesota 
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2003-08-28 62799
Advice needed again.
I am approaching my 50 hour service on my L 4330. Is this something that you recommend that be done by a dealer or can I do it myself. I have read the manual and most of it seems straight forward. One salerep told me that I should take the tires off to change the hydraulic fluid. That scared me but it doesn't say anything in the manual. What do most people do?
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| TomG
Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5406 Upper Ottawa Valley 
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2003-08-28 62800
I sure didn't take my rear tires off and they aren't loaded. I think I'd rather take a minor beating than take off loaded rear wheels. I don't really like the idea of me under a vehicle on blocks if it can be avoided. If I did raise it for better ground clearance, I'd want to leave the wheels on if at all possible. Not every owner has a good solid shop floor and decent blocks and chocks for the front wheels to work with.
The downside of doing it on the ground is that my Ford doesn't have enough ground clearance to put a 5-gallon oil bucket under the tractor, and besides more than 5-gallons comes out of most tractors. I bought the largest boxstore drain I could find. It was less than 5-gallons and I had to drain over 8 gallons. That meant I had to put the drain plug back in several times so I could empty the drain into an old 5-gallon pail.
You do need someplace to keep old oil until you empty a bucket of new oil. Most owners end up with several old pails that you probably don't have right now. I found that screwing the fill cap back in slowed the flow enough so putting the drain plug back in wasn't too bad. You also need to make arrangements to dispose of the old oil. Most dealers will it back especially if you bought new oil from them.
Getting the old oil out is one thing, getting new oil back in is another. Trying to balance a 5-gallon pail and pour into a long necked funnel is no picnic and is nearly impossible to do on front-axles. I have a pail pump myself. If you do it yourself, I'd ask the dealer if saving receipts is enough for warranty purposes to document that the service was performed.
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 | Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4297 Southwest MiddleTennessee
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2003-08-28 62809
I did the 50 hr. service on my John Deere 4410 and it was not as bad as I thought it would be. A bit messy ....... yes ...... due to the person performing the service. ;-) My ouwner's manual was pretty straight forward and easy to follow. I would think yours would be the same. Why not save your self a few hundred dollars and do it yourself. At least you will be sure the most important service was done right.
I am not sure what kind of prices your dealer gives you on parts but when I had my Kubota L245, I bought all of my parts at a dealer that sells on tractorsmart.com . I dealt with a guy named Ronnie; very informed and heck of a nice guy. He beat the tar out of the prices that my local dealers gave me. He was also VERY helpful in getting me manuals. Email or call Ronnie. Tell him Randy with the old L245 recommended them to you. It has been awhile since I have talked to him but I bet he remembers me. I bought a ton of parts from him. Good luck with your service! ....
Link: Tractorsmart Parts Dept.
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 | F350Lawman
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 411 Goshen, NY
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2003-08-28 62844
If you need a five gallon container and the usual ones are too tall you can use a horse water bucket or a cheap 5 gallon pail used for mopping. I use the horse buckets...my wife aint' happy about it though:) ....
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| Glenn-D
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 54 Westmont, Illinois, summer home in Mountain Home Ar.
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2003-08-28 62846
lakeman,
I took the rear tire off my BX22 to do 50 hour transmission service. The strainer is kinda long and I don't think it would come out straight unless the tire comes off. Sure seemed like the easy way to do it anyway.
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 | Art White
Join Date: Jan 2000 Posts: 6898 Waterville New York
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2003-08-29 62882
I would only be removing a tire only for repairs not for the 50 hour service. ....
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| lakeman
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 39 Rollag Minnesota
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2003-09-02 63090
I talked to dealer today. They said that the owners manual is very conservative and he recommends not changing the transmission or hydraulic fluid until 200 hours. He said I should look over everything and check all fittings etc and change oil after 50 hours. What do you guys think?
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| Chief
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4297 Southwest MiddleTennessee
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2003-09-02 63093
I would disagree with your dealer. The 50 hr. service is argueably the most critical service you will ever do on your tractor. It purges any break-in metal particals, allows a look at the hyd. suction screen for any debry that may be restricting it, and changes filters that may be nearly full of break-ion debry. It also lets you eye ball any possible evidence of an impending or current problem. In most cases the oil draining out looks almost as good a oil you put back in new. I would strongly reccomend doing the 50 hr. service if your owner's manual calls for it. It establishes a good maintenance base line, complies with the warranty requirements, adds to peace of mind, and gets your tractor off the best possible start of its hopefully LONG life. ....
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| Glenn-D
Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 54 Westmont, Illinois, summer home in Mountain Home Ar.
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2003-09-02 63094
Amen Chief.
50 hour service is there for a reason. Potential problems can be caught early. Any solvents, assembly lube, or contamination trapped during assembly are strained, filtered and purged. The service interval specified by the manufacturer is there for a reason. I could go on forever. But I won't. You get the idea.
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 | kwschumm
Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 5764 NW Oregon
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2003-09-02 63096
If your dealer is advocating shortcuts I'd find a new dealer. Seriously. The first change is very, very important. There are likely metal shavings left over from the manufacturing process and metal particles from break-in that NEED to be removed from the system. Follow the manufacturers recommendation and you should be fine. ....
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